Pablo Iglesias confesses that he did not want to see Yolanda Díaz's interview live in Lo de Évole. The chapter of a series was put on so that Irene Montero and he could go to sleep "calmly" and "without bitterness." But at four in the morning the "unconscious" betrayed him and, awake, he began to devour his intervention in La Sexta.
After seeing the suit that he made for her, Iglesias's bitter conclusion is that the interview "distances Yolanda and Sumar from Podemos even further" regardless of the express words that he dedicated to him. This is what he has written in an article in CTXT, one of the media where he collaborates and from which he plays, as Díaz pointed out, a "sharpened" leadership, demonstrating that he has not left that role or that he "lets the leaders of Can.
In RAC 1 he has also left his opinion on his statements: "I don't know how yesterday's host salad helps us do well in the municipal and regional elections." "Hopefully the teammates lower their tone a bit and understand that, from respect for what each one represents."
In this sense, he has emphasized that it was not right. "I don't think she is happy today, doing a bad interview has happened to all of us, and that is lived with great bitterness later," she said.
Returning to his article, he has pointed out the impact that it will have on the space "I think it has generated a lot of sadness among militants and people on the left," reflects Iglesias this Monday.
Despite the growing distance between Díaz and Podemos, Iglesias points out that the electoral law and the need for progressive governments not to fall "are obvious reasons to go to the elections together." In any case, he warns Sumar that "it must stop trying to integrate Podemos into its platform, in the same way that Podemos never tried to integrate other parties."
His reflection is that Podemos is "more necessary than ever" and that this was confirmed yesterday when listening to the second vice president. "The left that Sumar represents is legitimate and necessary, but I believe that without what Podemos represents, both electorally and ideologically, it will be impossible to continue advancing. I believe that both spaces must walk together electorally, but without denying that they are different. It would be lying to the citizens to say that Sumar and Podemos are the same. Yesterday it was seen that they were not".
Iglesias is hurt by the criticism. "I am used to always taking a lot of hosts, to being called authoritarian and macho and to being told to shut up at once. Although they hurt, I try to accept them with sportsmanship and I admit that, surely, there is a lot of truth in them. What I don't What I understand is how all this helps now to build electoral unity".
In his defense, he justifies not keeping quiet that he is "fulfilling" the "role" entrusted to him by the general secretary of Podemos, Ione Belarra, and assures that he will continue to act in the same way because, he points out, what he is doing is being " a media asset" of the party. And he will follow the same line, aware that "many of Sumar's colleagues" reject what he does.
Regarding his macho behavior, he acknowledges that he has them as "many men on the left" but takes advantage of this criticism to say that he does not dare to say it about other powerful people. "I understand why it doesn't, but sometimes the most valuable thing in politics is not to hit the one who everyone hits even though you may be right, but to use the immense power that hundreds of thousands of citizens listen to to criticize whom no one dares criticize," he says.
Jordi Évole's questions left many issues in which Díaz distanced himself from the line of Podemos. Sometimes more for the forms than for the theme itself. And other times for the very bottom. One of those issues is the offensive and the smear campaign led by Iglesias against journalists and the media. The former general secretary of Podemos reproaches him. "Ione Belarra never hesitates to point out that the key to the sewers and the violence against Podemos is in the media and she does not hesitate to put a name and surname to that harassment." From journalists or businessmen. "Yolanda and Sumar would never do that and we both know it," he says. "I understand and respect them, but I am not going to shut up."
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