Düzen and Tülin Tekkal, you grew up in Hanover as children of Kurdish-Yazidi refugees – with nine siblings. The roles of parents and siblings must have mixed up quite a bit, right?
Düzen: How far apart are we again, Tülin?
Tülin: How old are you now? 43?
Düzen: 43 and you?
Tülin: 30. So 13 years. With ten siblings, it can get confusing. But Düzen likes to point out that she changed my diaper earlier, right, Düzen?
Düzen: That was just the way it was, Tulin. I raised you with me.
Are you like a second mother, Düzen, who also tells Tülin to dress warmer?
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